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Don't you normally expect critical comments to have some basis in fact?
At his six month anniversary I took the time to make a list of his accomplishments... here's that...
# Signed executive orders to close the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, within a year, ban torture and end the CIA’s secret overseas prisons and define treatment of Detainees.
# Reversed restrictions on stem cell research.
# Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. Reducing discrimination based on gender, age, religion, or race.
# Signed an executive order reversing the ban that prohibits funding to international family planning groups that provide abortions. Gag rule revoked (Mexico City policy).
# Creates the White House Council on Women and Girls "to provide a coordinated federal response to the challenges confronted by women and girls and to ensure that all Cabinet and Cabinet-level agencies consider how their policies and programs impact women and families."
# Signed a Presidental Memorandum extending federal benefits to same-sex partners of federal workers and announced support for the Domestic Partners Benefits and Obligations Act of 2009.
# Reverses U.S. position on LGBT Issues at the UN: At the "Durban Review Conference," U.S. supports language condemning “all forms of discrimination and all other human rights violations based on sexual orientation.”
# Signed executive order requiring federal contractors to offer jobs to current workers when contracts change.
# Reversed a Bush order requiring federal contractors to post notice that workers can limit financial support of unions serving as their exclusive bargaining representatives.
# Signed executive order preventing federal contractors from being reimbursed for expenses meant to influence workers deciding whether to form a union and engage in collective bargaining.
# Created a foreclosure prevention fund for homeowners.
# Expanded eligibility for the refinancing portion of the Making Home Affordable plan to help Americans struggling with distressed mortgages refinance at lower interest rates, even if they owe up to 25 percent more than their homes are now worth.
# Established a credit card "bill of rights".
# Expanded loan programs for small businesses.
# Extended and index the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax patch.
# Expanded eligibility for State Children's Health Insurance Fund (SCHIP).
# Expanded funding to train primary care providers and public health practitioners.
# Created a new White House task force on the problems of middle-class Americans, and installed Vice President Joe Biden as its chairman.
# Appoints Vice President Joe Biden to Oversee Stimulus Plan Payouts.
# Granted a reprieve to Liberian immigrants facing imminent expulsion.
# Directed military leaders to end war in Iraq.
# Allowing Caskets to be photographed when the return from Iraq with family approval.
# Released nine previously secret internal Justice Department memos and opinions defining the legal limits of government power in combating terrorism.
# On Arab TV Network, Obama Urges Dialogue.
# Gave a speech in Cairo engaging the Muslim and Arab world.
# Bars independent contractors from conducting interrogations of terror suspects.
# Granted Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send money to Cuba.
# Ordered the release of nearly a quarter of a million pages of records from the Reagan White House that were kept from the public during a lengthy review by President George W. Bush.
# Restored funding for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant (Byrne/JAG) program.
# Released presidential records.
# Required new hires to sign a form affirming their hiring was not due to political affiliation or contributions.
# Pushed for enactment of Matthew Shepard Act, which expands hate crime law to include sexual orientation and other factors.
# Invites gay families to the Easter Egg Roll as part of the Obama administration's outreach to diverse communities.
# Created a White House Office on Urban Policy.
# Increased funding for the NEA.
# Appointed an assistant to the president for science and technology policy.
# Funded a major expansion of AmeriCorps.
# Banned lobbyist gifts to executive employees.
# Investment in all types of alternative energy.
# Enacted tax credit for consumers for plug-in hybrid cars.
# Support for high-speed rail.
# Provided grants to encourage energy-efficient building codes.
# Extended unemployment insurance benefits and temporarily suspend taxes on these benefits.
# Created the White House Council on Automotive Communities and Workers to help auto industry workers transition to new manufacturing opportunities, including jobs in alternative energy.
# Stopped raids on medical marijuana dispensers.
# Nominated Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court of the United States. If confirmed, Sotomayor would be the first Hispanic to ever serve on the Supreme Court.
# Appointed more than 60 openly LGBT persons to positions in the executive branch.
# Issues Presidential Proclamation for Pride, proclaiming June 2009 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month.
# Signed a mercury reduction pact with 140 other nations.
# Signed the Weapons System Acquisition Reform Act to curb wasteful spending by the Pentagon. Intended to price contracts and budgets lower; may potentially save billions of dollars in defense.
# Signed the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009, which serves to protect two million acres of land and creates a new system of land conservation for the Bureau of Land Management.
# Phase out government payments to crop producers making more than $500,000 a year and eliminates subsidies for cotton storage to help trim the U.S. budget deficit.
# Cut funding for a proposed U.S. nuclear storage facility at Yucca Mountain.
# Restored Endangered Species Act Provision requiring U.S. agencies consult with independent federal experts to determine if their actions might harm threatened and endangered species.
# Orders The Chesapeake Bay Protection and Restoration "to protect and restore the health, heritage, natural resources, and social and economic value of the Nation's largest estuarine ecosystem and the natural sustainability of its watershed."
# Signed the 2009 Omnibus Public Land Management Act designating two million additional acres of public wilderness areas the highest level of government protection from logging and other forms of commercial use and development.
# Signed the Christopher and Dana Reeve Paralysis Act which will expedite the search for cures and treatments for millions of Americans living with paralysis caused by spinal cord injury, stroke, MS, Parkinson's and many other diseases and disorders.
# Established The Joint Virtual Lifetime Electronic Record, a new system for updating medical records of servicemen and women both during and after their military careers.
# Established the White House Office of Health Reform
# Created new and stronger safety standards to safeguard the country's food supply.
I know this won't matter to you, he's not the person you want in the White House...
Bush took eight months to decide to send troops to Afghanistan.
Nobody is sitting around waiting for an answer in Afghanistan.
That is an important issue, a policy that Obama changed.
Yes, Obama IS getting the job done on theimportant issues. He's been ini office barely 10 months. Change is a happening thing.
Obama is getting the Job done on the important issues to Americans.
Is it possible for Republicans to lose more seats in 2010?
With the GOP campaign line of "We chose to do nothing in the face of adversity" I am sure they will.
increase and a strong signal that a "recovery is developing," the
Conference Board reported Thursday."
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/leading-indica...
L-R, where were you when the whole nation was told up front to our face that this economic crisis was a long time in coming, was inherited from the previous administration, and that recovering from it would necessarily be a long and slow process for which the current administration could no way be blamed? WHERE WERE YOU?? It was a scant year ago!
Graphic response follows...
I use it because I see people making decisions based on what their leader tells them - no matter how much it will harm themselves and their loved ones.
Like the people saying they don't want public insurance made available - when they are the very ones who may wind up needing it. Yet they mouth what the insurance company pushes through ads and Fox and paid "grassroots" website and busses traveling the country. There can't be any other clearer picture in my mind than the piles of dead that kind of blind following produced.
has become the topping on arguments that are just echoes of echoes.
The list above is a short list of the things he's done in the first 6 months - the list is longer now...
He's not a socialist, he's not even very left-leaning, and you're points? sound rather like a list of things you heard somewhere. Sad.
He's a socialist... but he's not catering to the far left?
He's a socialist... but he hasn't taken over all business and given
them to the workers?
Is that what you call logic? You need to look up socialism and try
again, buddy - you're way off - or you're drinking the Fox Brand
Propaganda Juice.
Yup, he has taken over the banking system and car companies. He would love to Nationalize healthcare. He just needs more time and more control of Congress to get his socialist policies in place.
do you actually LIVE in the USA?
He's a bit too far right for me, and I think trying to work with a
group that is doing it's level best to trash everything that needs
doing is pointless.
But you should really check the -isms you throw around so easily,
using them to describe Obama makes you look rather foolish.
Can you even see moderate from where your standing?
What do you then think of a candidate for Congress who promises to do anything? When the rest of Congress does not support what (s)he promised, is that failure?
You are now accusing the P of NOT being a dictator. I can see why you chose a flip-flip handle.
single-handedly, but would slam him if he even tried.
The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises
"PolitiFact has compiled about 500 promises that Barack Obama made during the campaign and is tracking their progress on our Obameter. We rate their status as No Action, In the Works or Stalled. Once we find action is completed, we rate them Promise Kept, Compromise or Promise Broken."
He's doing a good job - and he's squarely facing all the problems thrown at him with patience and thoughtful study.
Lets get the facts straight.....ACORN, Czars, and the like would never have been brought up if it were not for FOX. And before you left state how ACORN is being picked on and Czars is just a nothing issue they are both being discussed and acted upon by our Congress. Other stations only report the party line. They are TROLLS of the Democratic party.
I still think he would be fun to have a beer with.
Fox and Friends, Niel Covoto, Glenn Beck, Bill Orieley, Gretta Von Sustran, and Hanity are all just entertainers according to Faux news Senior Vice President Michael Clamente.
While you and .5 million people are watching Faux between 6p-8p an average of 6million people are watching each of the three major networks.
18 million watching real news, 1/2 a million watch the juiced up crazy news on Faux.
I find it unreal that people with intelligence will waste their time watching people like Beck etc. for amusement and listen to what they say and then believe that not one thing they have heard has lodged in their thought processes.
I keep tabs on Faux News so I can see what I might be hearing at the water cooler for weeks to come. A LOT of people consume Faux as fact and Faux Knows it. Faux is trying to form the debate by sending out its 1/4 million robot parrots repeating the GOP talking lines.
My favorite aggregator for the Faux channel is www.newshounds.us
News Hounds lead story today is a couple of samplings from Faux News' FoxNation Blog page where the Fox Nation moderators let posts like"I wish the Ft. Hood shooter were on capital hill instead" get on the webpage.
Ignoring this kind of fanaticism would be crazy.
There are more channels then just the cable ones you know. Most Americans are watching the real networks. PBS, ABC, CBS, and NBC have 97% of the news viewership each night. I suggest you start watching all of these channels instead of the pretend news on the cable channels.
I get my news from reading various local, national, and international website. Easy way to see what opinions are out there about news stories is to go to memeorandum.com, where you can click on opinions from the left, right, and middle. However, on a slow sports night, I do enjoy the liberal bias of Olbermann and Maddow. Nice to see people with IQs bigger than their shoe size discuss issues.
"Rachael Madcow?"
Don't you know that name calling is childish?
DUH!!
That's the giant lie that Fox breeds among the weak minded, that all news is opinionated.
Fox and Friends, Niel Covoto, Glenn Beck, Bill Orieley, Gretta Von Sustran, and Hanity are all just entertainers according to Faux news Senior Vice President Michael Clamente.
While you and .5 million people are watching Faux between 6p-8p an average of 6million people are watching each of the three major networks.
18 million watching real news, 1/2 a million watch the juiced up crazy news on Faux.
Our President Barrack Obama sent two additional brigades to Afghanistan immediately after taking office. Brigades that the exiting President would not send.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promise...
Imagine if the last President had been as proactive we might not be in Afghanistan or Iraq in the first place.
To call Faux News biased is not bashing, its honesty. Its a wonder why conservatives and their media wing Faux News is so thinned skin about a little honesty.
Conservatives remind me of the young kid at the baseball game who says that if you don’t play the game the way I want, then I will take the ball and bat and go home. The GOP and Faux News has spent the last nine months crying and pointing finger instead of rolling up their sleeves and helping resolve these crisis.
I supported the President the first time he sent troops to Afghanistan and I support his decision to send 35,000 more troops.
Are you copping out....are you going to support Obama if he sends the 40,000 troops McCrystal wants?? Go on take a stand......
Now your blaming Clinton for what happened eight months after he left the
Presidency? How much of Bush's Presidency is Clinton responsible for?
Yea, the GOP fantasy of Clinton on the golf course, written by a partisan
hack, with no evidence or corroboration.
Did Bush expand the CIA in the eight months he was President? Did he not
know how?
I understand we needed to create a narrative that kept Bush from accepting
his responsibility while he was in office, but we have a new President now
and continuing the charade does no one any good. Imagine if Obama lowered
the importance level of terrorism the moment he stepped into office and
then went on vacation. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat it."
I still support the Presidents decision to send 35,000 more troops to
Afghanistan.
Looks like you hit both the left and right wing extremist hornets nest !!
I didn't vote for our current prsident, but there is a lot going on right now and he is less than a quarter through his term, so I'd like to give him time to accomplish something tangible.
However, I think you are absolutely correct about FOX news.
I've never watched FOX news until recently,
and that was only due to curiosity generated by all the negative feedback I read on the Telegraph comments sections. I just had to see the "twisted, full of lies, etc" newscast for myself.
Clearly FOX is not inventing news that does not exist, they just have a very strong opinion on some of their stories. NY shock -jock Howard Stern once boasted about a media survey that revealed listeners who hated him outnumbered listeners who liked him. I think the same thing is true of FOX news; the more people that complain about the coverage, the more new listeners tune in to see what the fuss is all about, which yields more complaints and more viewers. I imagine this type of promotion would normally be very expensive, so the free publicity provided by democrats is reason alone for FOX to maintain it's current opinions.
Opposition has always been a part of politics, especially in this country where oppostion was the basis for the birth of our nation. Public scrutiny is just another method of checks and balances, which should be welcomed by honest legislators and robust policies and feared by those who place party and special interests above citizens.
If you don't like FoxNews, use the remote...
Sorry past administrations had to deal with the truth being broadcast in the news. Nixon didn't like it when caught in lies, and neither did Cheney Bush.
Sorry the truth has a liberal slant.
Dan Rather is a great example. It shows that he was ousted by mainstream news for not sticking to real journalism. You will never see that on Fox.
You only get propaganda on Fox, I don't watch it, but I am compelled to warn folks who do that it is propaganda.
Did your antennae just fall off? What question are you answering? What are you talking about?
I'll type s l o w l y in hopes that you can comprehend. I asked for names of the Democrats who work for Fox and the numbers of wingnuts who appear daily to compare those numbers to see if there was balance. You responded to me with channel numbers. Duh?
Would you say that Fox tells a complete enough story to fully inform?
We get it, already.
I must refer you to the Daily Show as the source because the other MSM are too cowardly to insist on standards from Fox. But they have evidence, and they usually do to back their jabs.
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200911100063
is it possible they have nothing to say that can advance any of their assertions or arguments?
And, you are behind the times, as usual. The Disqus function has always had that information available. Pity you just found it today. Must have those old conservative blinders on over your ViewMaster.
Why not just be honest and write a letter that states that there is nothing that Obama could do to be Presidential in your blind eyes. Instead, you think you have presented a cogent position to to mask your bias. You have not. Why not have the courage of your preconceptions?
You said: "He reminds me of the young kid at the baseball game who says that if you don’t play the game the way I want, then I will take the ball and bat and go home. " You must have the President confused with the Congressional Republicans who have done exactly that since they lost the majority, including their shameful behavior in the House Saturday night, or the times they have walked out of the House in protest, or like last week, left an important hearing for the same reason.
It is you I pity.
Why did you neglect to mention that Obama has already provided troops to Afghanistan? Didn't fit your agenda?
Good grief, man, you need to pay attention. You can scroll through the comments and find out for yourself. Again, half-informed, making mis-statements. Not surprised.
My advice to you is to stop couching your criticisms as support for the troops. Your letter mentioned the time a thoughtful President is taking making the decision to send more soldiers in harms way. If the time he is taking doesn't suit you, tough. I trust his judgment far more than any opinion you might have. It is pitiful that you would invoke concern for the troops as reason for your screed. You are a phony who doesn't man up to your own agenda and squeals like a kid on the playground when someone challenges you.
Gotta go now. Must finish reading the "Stealing Money from Wingnuts' Pockets" guide. I'm at the chapter about "Being Shrill and Loving It". Next chapters are "Nattering 101" and "Party All the Time - Nabob Nightlife on Wingnuts' Dime".
The rate of unemployment is a symptom of the destroyed economy President Obama inherited from the previous President. Obama immediately signed a stimulus bill that has stopped our slide into a depression and is already showing signs of a recovery.
During all this great effort the President has had to endure a continuous litany of made up problems by the petulant little cable channel Faux News. The President spent five minutes explaining that he would no longer take this completely bias GOP propaganda attacks from the Republican media arm. Since then Faux has devoted all its time to crying victim.
It is the childish right and Faux News who have the thin skin in this story. And as long as conservatives play lame and lay in the way of progress in a temper tantrum we will all suffer.
My wish is that the right start acting like more like Americans and less like partisan right wing cry babies. Its time for the right to give up their petty childish temper tantrums and join the heavy lifting that its going to take to get this country back on its feet.
"White House National Security Adviser retired Gen. Jim Jones issued a rare public statement Monday vehemently denying media reports that suggest President Obama has privately decided to send close to 40,000 more U.S. troops to Afghanistan."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/09/afghanis...
This story is something, did you read it?
Its claiming that the Pentagon leaked this fake story yesterday to
undermine the President?
I hope conservative in the Pentagon are not planing on overthrowing the
government.........
I'm going to stick to my claim that Obama has already committed to send the
troops. The United States is negotiatingwith NATO, trying to get them to
man up a little by committing troops and this is the cause for the delay in
the announcement.
I wonder if the greath Messiah will go for the McCrystal light in Afghnistan and second guess his Generals rather than give them what they ask for. If he does cut the troop numbers I hope McCrystal just says go find yourself another PATSY and resigns. I would not be surprised if that is the reason the Obummer has not decided.....trying to figure out what McCrystal and other Generals will do if he does not support them and what the Public fallout will be.
Do you not know how the military works or which direction orders flow? You
might want to educate yourself.
You have to admit that the Generals must feel a lot more comfortable with
this President compared with the last's indecisiveness.
General McChrystal asked for more troops in August, 2009.
We still do not have an answer from the Obama administration.
Force? Did the President do what ever you told him to do?
You certainly cannot be comparing Obama to the last President because if
you were you would have to admit he cares about the troops overseas much
more than Bush. Obama did not send our solders into war under manned, under
protected, and without a exit plan.
As far as care about the Troops.....the ones I know do not care for Obama and by far thought that Bush was a more caring President. Obama is still thinking with his finger stuck up his ....... Probably thinking about the political ramnifications if he goes forth in Afghanistan.
Generals don't get to jump rank unless its down.
I didn't ask if you spoke to a President, I asked if he took orders from you. Of course not.
That your conservative friends dislike the President of the United States does not concern me.
That you and your friends let your ideology get in front of your Country is pretty suspect though.
I'm guessing you scanned over my post. I don't buy into anyones political agenda, right or left, I have always operated on the assumption that people make their best decisions when they have the best information. As a matter of course I tend to ignore shills from either side as they are inefficient sources for the information I would seek. It's not good to make policy based on who had the best snide remark, or who mocked the other better. I make an honest effort to see an issue from all possible angles without predispostion either way. There are times when I think the Republican position turns out to be correct, and sometimes the Democrats are. For these reasons among others Fox disqualifies itself as a source for me.
Lest there be any further confusion, my suggesting Tesha post Bushs accomplishments for his six months was pointing out that (if memory serves) Bush wasn't very productive in his first six months.
The 18,000,0000 real news channel viewers are also only including the news on ABC, CBS, and NBC.
I am deeply grateful that he is taking his time to hold discussions, get other opinions and, in general, act in a manner that shows the gravity of the situation of whether it is best to increase the Afghanistan troop levels or not. As the marvelous Constitutional commentator, George Will said recently on "This Week with George Stephanopolis" , he would have been much happier had President Bush took his time and, using Cheney's word "dither", did a bit more "dithering" before plunging the USA into an unnecessary war.
If you think that President Obama can personally get the job market up and running again, then you are giving him far more credit than he could possible deserve. That is what the "free market" is supposed to do. Make jobs available. However, during the past 8 years, people who should have been awake at the switch were not, and deregulation appears to have given license to every sort of financial abuse that Wall Street and the Banks both big and small, could think up to get more profit and ignore the danger of what they were doing should the market go deep south. I honestly don't believe anyone over 7 yrs old would assume that President Obama would be able to do in 10 months to change the economic and job situation what has taken a great number of years to tear apart.
The problem with Nixon was excessive paranoia. And just because one is paranoid enough to think that another is out to get you, doesn't mean they are not out to get you. Every time I think of how China has bailed us out again and again, and the shops in USA are loaded with China's goods, I think of how Nixon helped to bring this about. Nixon was not always wrong about everything.
And President Obama is acting very presidential to my way of thinking. That you think he is similar to that boy at a baseball game is your problem, and I think you are being both short-sighted and biased to the point no matter what President Obama does or says, you will disapprove.
Now, I admit that I occasionally watch Shepherd Smith, as I really do think he is a newsman. I would, as I've said before, eat ground glass before listening to Beck, O'Reilly, Ann Coulter and some of the others who are dishing out personal opinions and having the audacity to call it "news reporting".
And I wish I had the power to shut those people up permanently any way short of violence. I wish President Obama had that power. Neither of us do. More the pity.
As for Presidential....I hope Obama has learned from the Cambridge Police a "teachable moment" not to interfere in such matters. Another one of his many blunders....what a fool.....what was he thinking in trying to protect his Professor friend and after admittantly saying he did not know the facts....
The Soviets only had Pravda and their own on-air "news" organizations. No one was allowed to buck the 'party line. If anyone did, then not only were they shut down, but the reporters were never heard from again. They are onlu following in the foorsteps of Kim Il in North Korea. Absolutely no there one is allowed to say anything aainst that dspot. They are following ion the footsteps of Fidel Castro in Cuba. No one in Cuba is allowed to say anything against the ole cigar chomper.
They are following in the footsteps of the Red Chinese. Ask anyone in Tibet.
More currently, they are following the example of Chavez and his gang of thugs.:
"Chavez Closes 34 Radio Stations" (
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/02/world... )
"Chavez cancels opposition TV station's license" (http://www.unknownnews.org/070106-Chavez-RCTV.html )
Meantime the Obama sheeples are giggling over calling Fox News... "Faux News".
Hope and Change? Obamaists are "hoping" that they can "change" the Fouth Estate into one of the shining examples I gave above.
---Tom P
oh, good joke TomP
Obama ruins Fox by refusing to appear on their shows... hahahahahaha
"Respected Democrats are amazed at these comments about Fox News."
C'mon, since when have any of you righties used "respected" and "democrats" in the same sentence?
He ought to start talking about how litigation is preventing OBGYN's from practicing the love they have for their patients.
He ought to start an unecessary war, give tax breaks to people who don't need it, and increase the national debt by 40 percent.
Then the conservatives would love him. (No, they'd still bash him on Fox 24/7)
Obama has keep America safer than Bush.
Democrats are the moderates in this country.
Thankfully Obama has learned what devastation a "weak on terrorism President" like Bush can cause and he did not choose to ignore terrorism like the last President.
Your claiming to know this was a terrorist attack? You've never needed facts to jump to conclusions before, why start now?
Your point is after Bush let us down the first time, he didn't let us down again. Interesting argument.
1 for Obama? Do you know of a terrorist attack that I don't?
Skipping to your post below, I kow what ALLAHU AKBAR means. It's the CONTEXT in which it's said, mj. When it's followed by a bomb or other, similar mayhem (after months or years of planning same, to boot)- not nice.
When in crisis the effort is not just to react quickly, but to react correctly. The shooter has been subdued, the base is secure, why are you so willing to guess when we can wait a few days and know?
I was in Israel and had just gone through security and was standing in the plaza in front of the Wailing Wall . I had spent most of my trip in Tel Aviv which was secure but had mush less military presence then where I was. Flak Jackets, rifles, metal detectors and road blocks where every where in Jerusalem. As I stood alone in the court yard they started the Muslim call to prayers by tapping severl times on the P.A. "Pop" "Pop" "Pop", I nearly hit the ground.
My point is, its not good enough to just to react, you have to react correctly.
It's been a week. We know.
Are you old enough to recall the attacks in 1993 upon the same targets in NYC? 1993... Hmmm- who was pres then?
Bush was pres for less than 9 months. Was he privvy to intelligence and was there chatter? Yes. But i submit that Clinton is equally, if not more to blame for 9/11. So if you want to play that game....
Terrorist attacks since Jan of this year, on US soil? Yes, i do. So do you know of it.
9/11 is Clinton fault because Bush was a slow starter.
You've jumped to the conclusion that F.t. Hood was a terrorist attack but its Obama's fault be cause he is so much smarter than Bush?
So, Republicans will never accept responsibility unless its for something positive, did I summarize that correctly?
In fact it's starting to look like the Army screwed this one up on their own by missing glaring warning signs and flat out ignoring behavior that should have called this guy's sanity into question. What's worse is they allowed it continue and last I checked mid-level Army officers don't run their decisions by the president before acting on them.
Moron.
Instead, how does it look when nothing was done? 13 dead, dozens wounded.
But at least we didn't insult him.
On second thought, cancel the "shhhh".
right, but your just guessing."
I know what i hear and read. The evidence- as we know it to be at this point- speaks clearly.
Latest: seems he was wiring his paychecks to Pakistan. He made $90K/year and it seems he had nothing to show for it- not in his apartment anyway. He gave away all his posessions and, as is the ritual for muslim terrorists apparently, visited a strip club for 7 hours. I guess he was getting worked up for them 72 virgins, huh?
There are also interviews with co-parishoners (correct term?) of his from his mosque, praising his actions and condemning the victims of those actions.
Do you really have doubts as to the motive behind his attack? You don't have to answer here; I'd rather you think about it and answer in your own mind.
http://www.slate.com/id/2235361/
But this might be the smoking gun
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,574546,00.html
I know its exciting to guess the ending of a book before you get there. I
would suggest it doesn't mean you should stop reading the book.
Every American should be angry. Angry at Hasan. Angry at his twisted version of Islam. Angry at ourselves and our inability to "call it like it is" and for letting political correctness get in the way of safety and sound policy.
More and more, people are afraid to speak up; don't want to offend, now do we? Well, I'm offended at what that's gotten us. Most recently- Ft. Hood.
right, but your just guessing.
I just paid attention to the details, mj. Then, i used logic and reason to come to a conclusion.
"my imam"? Sorry to have to inform you, but i don't have an imam.
But, mj- a little advice: If ever you find yourself in public and someone shouts out "ALLAHU AKBAR", and starts to dial a cell phone, or pulls out a gun- you just go ahead and stand there and contemplate whether this is a) a terrorist attack, b) Ric0o0oo0o's imagination running wild once again or c) none of the above.
In the meantime, we'll miss you around here.
Just because you refuse to see things for what they are, why must you insult those of us who choose to?
And before you accidentally attack some poor Muslim dude you might want to know that the phrase "ALLAHU AKBAR" means " God is the greatest" and your just as likely to hear someone who speaks Arabic say it when when they are happy or wish to express approval, when they want to praise a speaker, and even during times of extreme stress or euphoria. Its the "Oh my God!" of the Muslim world.
Your the poster child for the saying "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
Fort Hood ring a bell MJ?
DOES IT???!!!
Your calling Ft Hood a terrorist attack? Did you decide this or did your imam tell you?
Your a faster chicken little then the Bush administration was, Who are we going to invade this time? Iran?
I know this stuff can be scary for someone like you, but you might want to hold off on jumping to conclusions. You see how much trouble reacting without thinking the last administration got us into.
The reason for all the CZAR's is plain and simple,, they are like minded as he is and not like the leaders that comgress has approved.. There stail are opening for congressional appointments in the departs in DC. But his CZARs are there so no need to rush into them.
Ran into a friend who has a son in the USMC and stationed in Iraq and another son in the USAF. Glad I went.
We come together filled with sorrow for the thirteen Americans that we have lost; with gratitude for the lives that they led; and with a determination to honor them through the work we carry on.
This is a time of war. And yet these Americans did not die on a foreign field of battle. They were killed here, on American soil, in the heart of this great American community. It is this fact that makes the tragedy even more painful and even more incomprehensible.
For those families who have lost a loved one, no words can fill the void that has been left. We knew these men and women as soldiers and caregivers. You knew them as mothers and fathers; sons and daughters; sisters and brothers.
But here is what you must also know: your loved ones endure through the life of our nation. Their memory will be honored in the places they lived and by the people they touched. Their life’s work is our security, and the freedom that we too often take for granted. Every evening that the sun sets on a tranquil town; every dawn that a flag is unfurled; every moment that an American enjoys life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – that is their legacy.
Neither this country – nor the values that we were founded upon – could exist without men and women like these thirteen Americans. And that is why we must pay tribute to their stories.
Chief Warrant Officer Michael Cahill had served in the National Guard and worked as a physician’s assistant for decades. A husband and father of three, he was so committed to his patients that on the day he died, he was back at work just weeks after having a heart attack.
Major Libardo Eduardo Caraveo spoke little English when he came to America as a teenager. But he put himself through college, earned a PhD, and was helping combat units cope with the stress of deployment. He is survived by his wife, sons and step-daughters.
Staff Sergeant Justin DeCrow joined the Army right after high school, married his high school sweetheart, and had served as a light wheeled mechanic and Satellite Communications Operator. He was known as an optimist, a mentor, and a loving husband and father.
After retiring from the Army as a Major, John Gaffaney cared for society’s most vulnerable during two decades as a psychiatric nurse. He spent three years trying to return to active duty in this time of war, and he was preparing to deploy to Iraq as a Captain. He leaves behind a wife and son.
Specialist Frederick Greene was a Tennessean who wanted to join the Army for a long time, and did so in 2008 with the support of his family. As a combat engineer he was a natural leader, and he is survived by his wife and two daughters.
Specialist Jason Hunt was also recently married, with three children to care for. He joined the Army after high school. He did a tour in Iraq, and it was there that he re-enlisted for six more years on his 21st birthday so that he could continue to serve.
Staff Sergeant Amy Krueger was an athlete in high school, joined the Army shortly after 9/11, and had since returned home to speak to students about her experience. When her mother told her she couldn’t take on Osama bin Laden by herself, Amy replied: “Watch me.”
Private First Class Aaron Nemelka was an Eagle Scout who just recently signed up to do one of the most dangerous jobs in the service – diffuse bombs – so that he could help save lives. He was proudly carrying on a tradition of military service that runs deep within his family.
Private First Class Michael Pearson loved his family and loved his music, and his goal was to be a music teacher. He excelled at playing the guitar, and could create songs on the spot and show others how to play. He joined the military a year ago, and was preparing for his first deployment.
Captain Russell Seager worked as a nurse for the VA, helping veterans with Post-Traumatic Stress. He had great respect for the military, and signed up to serve so that he could help soldiers cope with the stress of combat and return to civilian life. He leaves behind a wife and son.
Private Francheska Velez, the daughter of a father from Colombia and a Puerto Rican mother, had recently served in Korea and in Iraq, and was pursuing a career in the Army. When she was killed, she was pregnant with her first child, and was excited about becoming a mother.
Lieutenant Colonel Juanita Warman was the daughter and granddaughter of Army veterans. She was a single mother who put herself through college and graduate school, and served as a nurse practitioner while raising her two daughters. She also left behind a loving husband.
Private First Class Kham Xiong came to America from Thailand as a small child. He was a husband and father who followed his brother into the military because his family had a strong history of service. He was preparing for his first deployment to Afghanistan.
These men and women came from all parts of the country. Some had long careers in the military. Some had signed up to serve in the shadow of 9/11. Some had known intense combat in Iraq and Afghanistan, and some cared for those did. Their lives speak to the strength, the dignity and the decency of those who serve, and that is how they will be remembered.
That same spirit is embodied in the community here at Fort Hood, and in the many wounded who are still recovering. In those terrible minutes during the attack, soldiers made makeshift tourniquets out of their clothes. They braved gunfire to reach the wounded, and ferried them to safety in the backs of cars and a pick-up truck.
One young soldier, Amber Bahr, was so intent on helping others that she did not realize for some time that she, herself, had been shot in the back. Two police officers – Mark Todd and Kim Munley – saved countless lives by risking their own. One medic – Francisco de la Serna – treated both Officer Munley and the gunman who shot her.
It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy. But this much we do know – no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor. And for what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice – in this world, and the next.
These are trying times for our country. In Afghanistan and Pakistan, the same extremists who killed nearly 3,000 Americans continue to endanger America, our allies, and innocent Afghans and Pakistanis. In Iraq, we are working to bring a war to a successful end, as there are still those who would deny the Iraqi people the future that Americans and Iraqis have sacrificed so much for.
As we face these challenges, the stories of those at Fort Hood reaffirm the core values that we are fighting for, and the strength that we must draw upon. Theirs are tales of American men and women answering an extraordinary call – the call to serve their comrades, their communities, and their country. In an age of selfishness, they embody responsibility. In an era of division, they call upon us to come together. In a time of cynicism, they remind us of who we are as Americans.
We are a nation that endures because of the courage of those who defend it. We saw that valor in those who braved bullets here at Fort Hood, just as surely as we see it in those who signed up knowing that they would serve in harm’s way.
We are a nation of laws whose commitment to justice is so enduring that we would treat a gunman and give him due process, just as surely as we will see that he pays for his crimes.
We are a nation that guarantees the freedom to worship as one chooses. And instead of claiming God for our side, we remember Lincoln’s words, and always pray to be on the side of God.
We are a nation that is dedicated to the proposition that all men and women are created equal. We live that truth within our military, and see it in the varied backgrounds of those we lay to rest today. We defend that truth at home and abroad, and we know that Americans will always be found on the side of liberty and equality. That is who we are as a people.
Tomorrow is Veterans Day. It is a chance to pause, and to pay tribute – for students to learn of the struggles that preceded them; for families to honor the service of parents and grandparents; for citizens to reflect upon the sacrifices that have been made in pursuit of a more perfect union.
For history is filled with heroes. You may remember the stories of a grandfather who marched across Europe; an uncle who fought in Vietnam; a sister who served in the Gulf. But as we honor the many generations who have served, I think all of us – every single American – must acknowledge that this generation has more than proved itself the equal of those who have come before.
We need not look to the past for greatness, because it is before our very eyes.
This generation of soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines and Coast Guardsmen have volunteered in a time of certain danger. They are part of the finest fighting force that the world has ever known. They have served tour after tour of duty in distant, different and difficult places. They have stood watch in blinding deserts and on snowy mountains. They have extended the opportunity of self-government to peoples that have suffered tyranny and war. They are man and woman; white, black, and brown; of all faiths and stations – all Americans, serving together to protect our people, while giving others half a world away the chance to lead a better life.
In today’s wars, there is not always a simple ceremony that signals our troops’ success – no surrender papers to be signed, or capital to be claimed. But the measure of their impact is no less great – in a world of threats that no know borders, it will be marked in the safety of our cities and towns, and the security and opportunity that is extended abroad. And it will serve as testimony to the character of those who serve, and the example that you set for America and for the world.
Here, at Fort Hood, we pay tribute to thirteen men and women who were not able to escape the horror of war, even in the comfort of home. Later today, at Fort Lewis, one community will gather to remember so many in one Stryker Brigade who have fallen in Afghanistan.
Long after they are laid to rest – when the fighting has finished, and our nation has endured; when today’s servicemen and women are veterans, and their children have grown – it will be said of this generation that they believed under the most trying of tests; that they persevered not just when it was easy, but when it was hard; and that they paid the price and bore the burden to secure this nation, and stood up for the values that live in the hearts of all free peoples.
So we say goodbye to those who now belong to eternity. We press ahead in pursuit of the peace that guided their service. May God bless the memory of those we lost. And may God bless the United States of America.
Last week, while the tragedy was unfolding, the President was at an conference of Native American Nations. He spoke at the beginning of the meeting and was scheduled to do the wrap-up at the end. I thought he acted appropriately when he made a few congratulatory remarks but did not deliver his prepared remarks and instead made brief comments about Ft. Hood, and left the gathering immediately. He did not do his usual ropeline handshakes or socializing. He was being briefed on an ongoing event - the base was still on lock down - and should not have made any speculation or detailed comments.
Exactly what should he have done to please you?
Your first comment on the subject was more than 24 hours after the incident, should we hold you with even more disdain than you for our President?
You represent the tragedy of the bitter.
"Well, look, we -- we have seen, in the past, rampages of this sort. And in a country of 300 million people, there are going to be acts of violence that are inexplicable. Even within the extraordinary military that we have -- and I think everybody understands how outstanding the young men and women in uniform are under the most severe stress -- there are going to be instances in which an individual cracks. I think the questions that we're asking now and we don't have yet complete answers to is, is this an individual who's acting in this way or is it some larger set of actors? You know, what are the motivations? Those are all questions that I think we have to ask ourselves. Until we have these answers buttoned down, I'd rather not comment on it."
So, Hasan may have cracked from the stress, but we do not have any answers so he should not comment on it, but he just did.... Who is he trying to appease with these comments about the Fort Hood terror attack?
That's pretty sad.
Obama Gives Shout Out to 'Congressional Medal of Honor Winner' Who Isn't
OBAMA: Please, everybody, have a seat. Let me first of all just thank Ken and the entire Department of the Interior staff for organizing just an extraordinary conference.
I want to thank my Cabinet members and senior administration officials who participated today. I hear that Dr. Joe Medicine Crow (ph) was around, and so I want to give a shout out to that Congressional Medal of Honor winner. It's good to see you. "
Ah, the dangers of giving shout outs without a teleprompter. Crow is not a Medal of Honor recipient. As noted by the Congressional Medal of Honor Society:
The Medal of Honor is the highest award for valor in action against an enemy force which can be bestowed upon an individual serving in the Armed Services of the United States. Generally presented to its recipient by the President of the United States of America in the name of Congress, it is often called the Congressional Medal of Honor.
Crow's name is not included on the Society's Medal of Honor recipient list. He was, however, awarded the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, in August.
Obama, often described as "cerebral" by the mainstream media, should know the difference between the Medal of Honor and the Medal of Freedom, especially since he personally awarded the latter to Crow. Don't expect his blunder to receive wide coverage."
And this is my favorite part..........." It's not something he can blame George Bush for."
I don't expect it to get widespread coverage in the real news. On the other hand, people hell bent on insulting and slamming Obama, the Foxphiles, expect this to be front page news.
You are delusional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0hiw8iXdMM
And out of Chicago news......
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disco...
"President Obama didn't wait long after Tuesday's devastating elections to give critics another reason to question his leadership, but this time the subject matter was more grim than a pair of governorships.
After news broke out of the shooting at the Fort Hood Army post in Texas, the nation watched in horror as the toll of dead and injured climbed. The White House was notified immediately and by late afternoon, word went out that the president would speak about the incident prior to a previously scheduled appearance. At about 5 p.m., cable stations went to the president. The situation called for not only his trademark eloquence, but also grace and perspective.
But instead of a somber chief executive offering reassuring words and expressions of sympathy and compassion, viewers saw a wildly disconnected and inappropriately light president making introductory remarks. At the event, a Tribal Nations Conference hosted by the Department of Interior's Bureau of Indian affairs, the president thanked various staffers and offered a "shout-out" to "Dr. Joe Medicine Crow -- that Congressional Medal of Honor winner." Three minutes in, the president spoke about the shooting, in measured and appropriate terms. Who is advising him?
Anyone at home aware of the major news story of the previous hours had to have been stunned. An incident like this requires a scrapping of the early light banter. The president should apologize for the tone of his remarks, explain what has happened, express sympathy for those slain and appeal for calm and patience until all the facts are in. That's the least that should occur.
Indeed, an argument could be made that Obama should have canceled the Indian event, out of respect for people having been murdered at an Army post a few hours before. That would have prevented any sort of jarring emotional switch at the event.
Did the president's team not realize what sort of image they were presenting to the country at this moment? The disconnect between what Americans at home knew had been going on -- and the initial words coming out of their president's mouth was jolting, if not disturbing.
It must have been disappointing for many politically aware Democrats, still reeling from the election two days before. The New Jersey gubernatorial vote had already demonstrated that the president and his political team couldn't produce a winning outcome in a state very friendly to Democrats (and where the president won by 15 points one year ago). And now this? Congressional Democrats must wonder if a White House that has burdened them with a too-heavy policy agenda over the last year has a strong enough political operation to help push that agenda through.
If the president's communications apparatus can't inform -- and protect -- their boss during tense moments when the country needs to see a focused commander-in-chief and a compassionate head of state, it has disastrous consequences for that president's party and supporters.
All the president's men (and women) fell down on the job Thursday. And Democrats across the country have real reason to panic."
I'm particularly impressed with how this empty suit has to constantly refer to his notes when talking about the Ft Hood tragedy, even when he calls himself Commander in Chief. Straight from the heart all right. It's right up there with the Gates/Crowley affair - this guy simply does not have a clue.
I heard the same speech on the radio, but you spin it to pretend the president was insensitive. This is not the case.
this is another red herring. He was not insensitive. Another cock and bull story from the right.
You conservatives have no imagination.
Bush sat and read a children's book while the towers fell so conservatives try to create a comparable scenario for Obama? You know your just inviting comparison to the half-wit you elected right?
Hillary Clinton runs as a viable candidate for President so conservative pull some hayseed out of Alaska to counter. You dufus' always miss the relevance. Hillary was a qualified candidate who was a woman, being a woman was not her qualification.
TrulyFeral even posted a Presidential gaff list for Obama, I would think you would want to forget your eight years of failure but conservatives keep bringing it up. oh well
LIE: "In terms of the economy, look, I inherited a recession, I am ending on a recession."—GWB, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009
DUH?: "I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best."—GWB, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009
HUH?: "This thaw—took a while to thaw, it's going to take a while to unthaw."—GWB, Alexandria, La., Oct. 20, 2008
TEE HEE: "I didn't grow up in the ocean—as a matter of fact—near the ocean—I grew up in the desert. Therefore, it was a pleasant contrast to see the ocean. And I particularly like it when I'm fishing."—GWB, Washington, D.C., Sept. 26, 2008
TROUBLE W/NUMBERS, TOO: "Throughout our history, the words of the Declaration have inspired immigrants from around the world to set sail to our shores. These immigrants have helped transform 13 small colonies into a great and growing nation of more than 300 people."—GWB, Charlottesville, Va., July 4, 2008
WTF??: After all, a week ago, there were—Yasser Arafat was boarded up in his building in Ramallah, a building full of, evidently, German peace protestors and all kinds of people. They're now out. He's now free to show leadership, to lead the world."—GWB, Washington, D.C., May 2, 2002
HIC: "And so, in my State of the—my State of the Union—or state—my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation—I asked Americans to give 4,000 years—4,000 hours over the next—the rest of your life—of service to America. That's what I asked—4,000 hours." —GWB, Bridgeport, Conn., April 9, 2002
HUH?: "There's no question this is a major human disaster that requires a strong response from the Chinese government, which is what they're providing, but it also responds a compassionate response from nations to whom—that have got the blessings, good blessings of life, and that's us."—GWB, Discussing relief efforts after a Chinese earthquake, Washington, D.C., June 6, 2008
DUH: "And so the fact that they purchased the machine meant somebody had to make the machine. And when somebody makes a machine, it means there's jobs at the machine-making place."—GWB, visiting the Silverado Cable Co., Mesa, Ariz., May 27, 2008
"A lot of times in politics you have people look you in the eye and tell you what's not on their mind."—GWB, Sochi, Russia, April 6, 2008
THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF: "And so, General, I want to thank you for your service. And I appreciate the fact that you really snatched defeat out of the jaws of those who are trying to defeat us in Iraq."—GWB, meeting with Army Gen. Ray Odierno, Washington, D.C., March 3, 2008
"Iraq is a very important part of securing the homeland, and it's a very important part of helping change the Middle East into a part of the world that will not serve as a threat to the civilized world, to people like—or to the developed world, to people like—in the United States." —GWB, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007
"Suiciders are willing to kill innocent life in order to send the projection that this is an impossible mission."—GWB, Washington, D.C., April 3, 2007
The best way to defeat the totalitarian of hate is with an ideology of hope—an ideology of hate—excuse me—with an ideology of hope."—GWB, Fort Benning, Ga., Jan. 11, 2007
"You know, when I campaigned here in 2000, I said, I want to be a war President. No President wants to be a war President, but I am one."—GWB, Des Moines, Iowa, Oct. 26, 2006
"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."—GWB, Interview with CBS News, Washington D.C., Sept. 6, 2006
TEE HEE: I'm going to try to see if I can remember as much to make it sound like I'm smart on the subject."—GWB, answering a question concerning a possible flu pandemic, Cleveland, July 10, 2007
And, last but certainly not least, on topic in this thread:
"If you've got somebody in harm's way, you want the president being—making advice, not—be given advice by the military, and not making decisions based upon the latest Gallup poll or focus group."—GWB, New Albany, Ind., Nov. 13, 2007
to do a quick synopsis for me?
If you'd like to see and hear him answer questions and speaking without prepared remarks, go to C-SPAN and click on archives. You will find hours of videos. Of course, you'll think that they were all staged or some other conspiratorial explanation will come to mind.
When you post worn out, tired, meaningless pap, you show yourself for who you are. Cranky and bitter. Get over it.
But then again, this fact wouldn't fit into your twisted view of the world.
Since the beginning of Obama's Presidency, actually since he won his party's nomination, people have been criticizing his every word. At first, I just posted counterpoints, usually with links to original sources, thinking that presenting the facts would be important. Now, anything goes. I'm not usually the first to name-call but I have no problem responding in kind to people like you. Almost a year of blah blah blah and still counting. If you want to be taken seriously, then get serious.
Lincoln wrote out and read the Gettysburg Address. Was that dishonest?
Washington never even spoke his Farewell Address. he wrote it out. Was that dishonest?
Every President since FDR, and probably before that, had people write speeches for them Have we been ruled by frauds ever since?
I guess the kids who get the best grades in class would be the kids who don't prepare at all.
The president was not insensitive to these murders, that's a lie.
The president did mention what happened, but was at a pre-scheduled speaking engagement and wanted to continue with the event.
Whoever wrote the above, is a liar.
I heard the president's speech on the radio, whoever wrote was miss orally copied here is a liar.
mjhealey = 30
commonweath = 12
SLRNashuan = 10 posts.
Has anyone noticed the mud slinging and name calling coming from these three and other liberal posters?
What is with this liberal insult machine? I thought that liberal cared and were about compassion and inclusion?
And do not venture over to the forums section of this site as that is when the gang of bullies really take the gloves off with the foul language and namecalling....
Have you ever provided a fact in any of your posts? You really are comical.
Obama has not made any commitment. He is asking for more options:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091112/ap_on_go_pr...
The military leaders in Afghanistan have been waiting for an answer from Obama since August.
UNSOLICITED insults by you righties:
Dennis:
"I feel sorry for them they have nothing to do all day"
NHYanke:
whacko worshippers,
unemployed, nattering nabobs
Tom P.
cultists
socialists
sheeple
nhproud:
comrades
epitome of arrogance
LeftyRightie
Unemployed collecting welfare
Trolls
Kool aide drinkers
Kevindumont
you are scary
Woody
you are overdue for medication
Baxter
irrelevant and silly
These don't include the neverending tirade of insults heaped on President Obama.
or responses to your insults?
Baxter said this:
"Continuing to look back at bush just makes you look irrelevant and silly"
so I responded:
"We are ten months in, your inabilty to count makes you irrelevant and stupid."
Nhproud said:
"mjh/commonwealth and your fellow comrades:" "Democrats are the epitome of arrogance."
So I said:
"You nhproud, are the epitome of ignorance, for a lot of reasons including your slur "comrades" as you refer to me and others on this forum."
Because the predominance of the comments come from a few liberal posters. They drive the comments and the tone. This is strait out of Alinsky Rules for Radicals "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon" and " Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."
The purpose is to drive away those who might voice a different opinion. They label, insult and throw mud and do not care about discourse or civility. This is the liberal way.
So what is a honest person suppose to do when someone like you posts a lie like this?
Should I accept that your "opinion" is that 30% is a majority?
And then you go ranting about Sal Alinsky Rules for radicals.
Currently liberals are the party in power, and you would be the radical in this scenario.
Yes I post a lot on this website.
I do not insult without provocation.
I will call you out if you choose to be dishonest.
It would be great if we could debate Americas problems on there merits, but most of the time I'm fighting just to get you on the same planet.
Sometimes it's easy, like shooting fish in a barrel.
But what I don't do is throw up names like Saul Alinsky (I dare ANY rightie to say that they heard of him 12 months ago)
While your at it, which one of you had ever heard of Bill Ayers, ACORN, or any other name on FOX's "enemies list" prior to FOX telling you that they are evil?
Baloney. This Alinsky stuff is garbage. I've never heard of the the guy until the right wing came up with their conspiracy theory.
My ridicule and insult was deliberately responsive to other's insults. You don't pay close enough attention.
No one is driving away anyone.
They think that by invoking those names and themes that they are somehow making some damning statement about "libruls". I don't take offense at all. I just think they're goofy.
GWB had the highest approval rating of any President EVER. You rewriting of history does not ring true.
All of America rallied round the President after he failed us on 9/11. We were all willing to support the narrative that he was as big a victim as us on 9/11. Bush had all of America and a majority of the world on his side as he sat and decided how to respond to the worst terrorist attack in American history. Bush decision was to deceive the American people and the world that he had evidence of WMD in Iraq, Bush decided to ignore the Constitution, Bush decided to secretly torture people of his choosing. America did not let Bush down, it was the other way around.
So don't you dare pull the I am only responding to insults card, because you and your fellow Conservatives are an absolute, total, unapologetic, dishonorable excuse for compassionate Americans. Your tactics displayed the last year are the same displayed on NT, you drive the negative tone, make everything partisan and forsake civility for political gain. You and the Republican Party should be ashamed, and I condemn your actions here and your party's in Wash DC.
Do you remember the last 8 years at all? Bush had enormous support for a time. When he started lying us in to war, when those elusive WMDs couldn't be found, when he eroded our sacred freedoms with his illegal spying, when we figured out that he was driving the economy in the ditch, people first started questioning and, when some of the questions were anwered, people started to speak out. No leftie ever defamed Bush. He, with the help or Cheney, did it to himself.
I will accept that you don't know what your talking about and are not qualified to debate on the level with most adults. I would also accept your pledge that you, in particular, stop pretending your capable of forming adult opinions and stop posting. Good luck with your further endeavors.
You really are frazzled.
commrade, MSMBC, Bumper Stickers, Prius? Touching all the hot buttons? You really are embarrassing yourself now.
nhproud,
This is what you believe: "The Democrats are all liberals, and they all hate out country and our troops."
Yes, let's let the reading public see this.
Nice try seamus, no cigar.
Typical right wing Fox smear tactics, God forbid anyone should criticize a general, then you are branded as "anti-military, anti-government."
Nice work Seamus, it's worthy of Rove and Stalin and Goebbels.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2...
Americans doubt ‘General Betraeus’ over troop surge (8/19/07):
AFTER being hailed as King David, the potential saviour of Iraq, the US commander General David Petraeus is facing a backlash in advance of his report to Congress in September on the progress of America’s troop surge.
Critics, including one recently retired general, are privately calling him "General Betraeus" on the grounds that he is too ambitious to deliver a balanced report on the war.
Lawrence Korb, a defence official under Ronald Reagan who is now at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic think tank, said Petraeus was regarded as "the most political general since General (Douglas) Mac-Arthur", a reference to the second world war hero who was touted as a possible president.
And you are going off on a tangent.
The issue is here, posters insulting posters. Now you want to talk about people insulting Bush.
"You and your fellow Democrats are blahbidiblah blah blah blah."
Get off your high horse, stop being so holier than thou.
And stop with the silly soclialist insults, your post only serves to perpetuate the back and forth mudslinging.
"I condemn your actions...you should be ashamed... blah blah yadayada."
Who are you? The freakin' Pope?
As if you and conservative Republicans have a monopoly on virtue? Stop, you are making a giant fool of yerself. You narcissistic nincompoop.
At the time this was posted this is your only post on this page.
Your only concern is how many posts I have?
During discussions people exchange thoughts and viewpoints, its how a civil society works. I wonder why none of this stuff entices you to comment, do you not think your opinion is good enough?
You don't really pay attention to what I write, you only pay attention when I insult someone, when I respond in kind.
This is typicalof the right wing.
Fox bashes Obama 24/7, so the White House responds, calling them a poltical outfit, and it is Obama's attack on Fox, not Obama defending himself against attackers.
Nice try, but you righties have a victim complex.
I responded to you that when Reagan ended his last term, Republicans were nostalgic for the days before presidential term limts.
There was no insult, just fact. And yet you criticze the opposition, falsely I might add, of wanting to do away with presidental term limits.
Seems you have no answers to your hypocrisy, so you focus on any insult I might have hurled in my defense.
The Soviets only had Pravda and their own on-air "news" organizations. No one was allowed to buck the 'party line'. If anyone did, then not only were they shut down, but the reporters were never heard from again.
They are only following in the footsteps of Kim Il in North Korea.
Absolutely no there one is allowed to say anything against that despot.
They are following in the footsteps of Fidel Castro in Cuba. No one in Cuba is allowed to say anything against the ole cigar chomper. They are following in the footsteps of the Red Chinese. Ask anyone in Tibet.
More currently, they are longing for following the example of Chavez and his gang of thugs.:
"Chavez Closes 34 Radio Stations" (
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/02/world... )
"Chavez cancels opposition TV station's license" (http://www.unknownnews.org/070106-Chavez-RCTV.html )
Meantime the Obama sheeples are giggling over calling Fox News... "Faux News".
Hope and Change? Obamaists are "hoping" that they can "change" the Fourth Estate into one of the shining examples I gave above.
---Tom P
Honestly? Are you this delusional? Our President has called out an admitted right wing cable station for their blatant bias, and your trying to compare this to communist Russia, or China? Are daft or just a child?
Obama is not trying to silence Fox. There is something called the constitution, and recently, US court precedent has decided that Fox can lie under the constitution's free speech clause.
You are a dumbell for two reasons:
1. Your belief that President Obama is trying to silence Fox.
2. Your belief that Fox is "fair and balanced."
These beliefs are not reality based.
You nhproud, are the epitome of ignorance, for a lot of reasons including your slur "comrades" as you refer to me and others on this forum.
Your going to stop calling people names? Its kinda your whole shtick. Are you sure you could do it?
Did you castigate nhproud for calling people names; "comrades?"
Of course you didn't you have a double standard. Only people who share you opinions can insult those who disagree.
Here's a name for you that's not childish; hypocrite.
What have I said that you disagree with?
Do you not know that Faux is a conservative channel?
Do you not now that they repeat GOP talking points in their new as if it is news, typos and all?
You do realize that Obama has only refused to work with them for two months?
Faux is not ashamed of their allegiance with the GOP, you should not be either.
Obama is simply calling Faux for what it is.
Try to learn a little without Faux feeding you the answers, your efforts might surprise you.
And this is my favorite part..........." It's not something he can blame George Bush for."
I agree, Presidents arent that busy and you would think he could something as simple as that straight
Yes, believe it or not, these are all genuine quotes from the man the people elected as the 43rd US President:
Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.
I admit it, I am not one of the great linguists.
For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it.
I am a person who recognizes the fallacy of humans.
I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them.
I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
I know how hard it is to put food on your family.
I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe - I believe what I believe is right.
I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here.
I recently met with the finance minister of the Palestinian Authority, was very impressed by his grasp of finances.
I think anybody who doesn't think I'm smart enough to handle the job is underestimating.
I think war is a dangerous place.
I understand small business growth. I was one.
I wish I wasn't the war president. Who in the heck wants to be a war president? I don't.
I'm not a very good novelist. But it'd make a pretty interesting novel.
If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow.
If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier - so long as I'm the dictator.
I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things.
I'm the master of low expectations.
I'm the commander - see, I don't need to explain - I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being President.
It would be a mistake for the United States Senate to allow any kind of human cloning to come out of that chamber.
Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?
Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people and neither do we.
The problem with the French is that they don't have a word for entrepreneur.
There's an old saying in Tennessee, I know it's in Texas, probably Tennessee, that says 'Fool me once [pause], shame on…shame on you. [Long pause] Fool me. [Pause] You can't get fooled again.'
They have miscalculated me as a leader.
They misunderestimated me.
This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating.
We cannot let terrorists and rogue nations hold this nation hostile or hold our allies hostile.
We need an energy bill that encourages consumption.
We ought to make the pie higher.
We're concerned about AIDS inside our White House - make no mistake about it.
Will the highways on the Internet become more few?
Do you have blacks, too? (To Brazilian President Fernando Cardoso)
When I was young and irresponsible, I was young and irresponsible.
You're free. And freedom is beautiful. And, you know, it'll take time to restore chaos and order - order out of chaos. But we will.
This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mential losses.
I think there is a Trojan horse lurking in the weeds trying to pull a fast one on the American people.
This is a world that is much more uncertain than the past. In the past we were certain, we were certain it was us versus the Russians in the past. We were certain, and therefore we had huge nuclear arsenals aimed at each other to keep the peace. That's what we were certain of…You see, even though it's an uncertain world, we're certain of some things.
It is clear our nation is reliant upon big foreign oil. More and more of our imports come from overseas.
I think we agree, the past is over.
And there's no doubt in my mind, not one doubt in my mind, that we will fail.
The important question is, how many hands have I shaked.
General…I can't name the general.(When asked to name President of Pakistan)
We spent a lot of time talking about Africa, as we should. Africa is a nation that suffers from incredible disease.
The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself.
When I was a kid I remember that they used to put out there in the Old West a wanted poster. It said, Wanted: Dead or Alive.
My answer is to bring them on. (On Iraqi militants attacking US forces)
Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. -- May 1, 2003
Ohhhhhhh wait, I got my Presidents mixed up,....nevermind
"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009
“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.” (Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march was in 1965)
“Thank you Sioux City” Obama said in Sioux Falls.
“My father served in World War II, and when he came home, he got the services that he needed.” (At the end of WWII, Obama’s father was 10 years old.)
"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009
"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)
"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)
"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008
"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)
"I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008
"Let me introduce to you the next President -- the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden." --slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008
"Just this past week, we passed out of the out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee -- which is my committee -- a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon." --referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008
"Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008
"How's it going, Sunshine?" --campaigning in Sunrise, Florida
"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."
"Hold on one second, sweetie, we're going to do -- we'll do a press avail." --to a female reporter for ABC's Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers
"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon
"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters
"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."
"Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions." --exasperated by reporters after a news conference
"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people
"In terms of the economy, look, I inherited a recession, I am ending on a recession."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009
Bush first took office in January 2001 - there was no recession at that time. The early 2000s recession began after 9/11/2001 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions...).