Nashua Telegraph - Latest Comments in Nashuatelegraph.com: Union gives officials OK to start job action

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Another Parent — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:40:14 -0000

Andrea....Everyone on these boards including yourself posts comments and replies to people that they disagree with.

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Parent of 2 — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:25:28 -0000

Andrea...sorry, but you are the one that attacked me first, responding to me on a comment that I made to someone else saying that I was the one that was trolling. Unless of course you are that someone else, now using your first name. I could use my first name too and still no one would know who I was. You too are posting anonymously. Until we all start posting with our first and last names, everyone is posting anonymously. Not really sure why you are seeking me out, you are doing the same thing that you claim that I am doing. When you copy and pasted all of my comments, you failed to include your own or failed to include the comment that I was responding to. Again, you came out of no where and YOU attacked me on a comment I left for someone else that also attacked me to start with and called me a troll. I was just defending myself from that other person. But then if you really are "So What" you know exactly what I am talking about.

All too often on these boards I find people attacking other people for comments that weren't even directed at them, and usually the people that are being attacked are defending themselves from something someone else commented to them on, and those attackers don't know the full story of what happened, either on a different board or about the previous comments on the same bored, because as I am finding, people don't bother to read things in full.What exactly did you think you were doing when you responded to a comment that I made to someone else when I was just defending myself? Do you think you were being any different, than what you claim I am being? What exactly are you doing?

I'm finished stooping down. If you want to seek me out and attack me, go right ahead, it makes you no better than anyone else that does the same thing. I will however, continue to support the teachers of this community, as I stated before they are a great influence over my kid's learning and attitude toward school.....sleep tight!

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The untold story — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:31:45 -0000

the poster you say is Mr. Teeboom contradicts what you said about Social Security. He says teachers DO pay into social security, and so the city also pays its share.

Perhaps a teacher can confirm?

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oldteacher — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:00:23 -0000

Who would disagree with a cost of living raise each year for any worker? That seems fair. After having taught in Nashua and having gone on to teach in a Mass. district, I feel desparately sorry for many Nashua teachers. I f they could just see the respect, protective union, extra pay for before and after school work, high salaries, and solidarity, I do believe many would consider moving on to another district. It was the best move I ever made. Good teaching is a commitment; with a raise or without. Nashua teachers have given in on many smaller points in recent years, and this mess is the result. Stop being penny wise and pound foolish. The Dr. Earl thing could have been resolved so simply without all of the money laid out. Nashua admin. and BOE are beyond stubborn. They need to get a life, and stop using this ed. forum for their egotistical fullfilment. Nashua needs to catch up quickly, or it will be another Lawrence or Lowell.

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The untold story — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:11:45 -0000

I'd rather find someone there from the NTU who can shed light on why the NTU thought it was ok for some of its members to get only 25% of their salary in benefits - in light of the fact that you say the private sector uses that number as a "model", and the NTU appears to like that model for SOME of it members - i.e. the teachers

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Mike M. — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:54:11 -0000

Ask him. He doesn't hide it. Post there, and ask him whatever you want.

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The untold story — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:30:48 -0000

Are you sure it's really him? After all, you thought I was a city employer, but I'm not.

As far as Mr. Teeboom is concerned, even though his main focus is cutting costs, he, not the NTU, came up with the idea of cutting health care costs such that paraprofessionals (NTU members) could cover their family’s health care for less than their gross pay. However, the NTU was ok with having unaffordable premiums and the status quo. 80% employee share was ok for some members, while 10% is too high for others. Hmmm. Guess it’s not only teachers who get the shaft, but at least it’s being addressed by their union.

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The untold story — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:15:42 -0000

a little advice....use your scroll button on the mouse. That way you won't have to read it the 1st time, instead of all three....

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Rockman — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:26:15 -0000

The teachers union has made several other concessions that the other city unions have not made. Why should they give up more than the other unions? If the city wants parity in contracts, give them all the same benefits. The teachers would love to have the bennies the firemen and police get, not to mention paid overtime. I have chaperoned at school functions on my own time and it always annoys me to see the police standing there getting time and a half doing the same thing. The Mayor talks about compromise but where is it? Take zero percent and we'll pass it is not compromise. Walk a mile in their shoes, spend one full day in your kids school to see what teachers have to go through.

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Andrea — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:58:31 -0000

Andrea Parent of 2 Who are you to tell anyone to "get a hobby" since trolling these comment boards seems to be your new "hobby" Who looks out for those "kids" Really, Stick to posting opinions on the article.
1 day ago Nashuatelegraph.com: Raises cut in altered teachers contract Nashua Telegraph
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Andrea And you are all about posting your own name. Just because *so what* doesnt share your beliefs doesnt make him/her wrong.
1 day ago Nashuatelegraph.com: Union gives officials OK to start job action Nashua Telegraph Parent of 2 Andrea...bite me...what are you doing? Seeking me out? This is the 2nd post from you to me. Apparently "trolling" is your new habit as well.
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The only "name calling" that I see is when you accused me of "trolling".

You do not appear to have anything useful to add to the comments RELATIVE to the story printed.

Don't use me as your excuse for posting tasteless comments and replies to people that you disagree with.

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LibertyIsNotAnarchy — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:07:05 -0000

No, I don't want to read it ten times in the same set of posts. Once is plenty.

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good job mayor lozeau — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:30:00 -0000

stick to your guns mayor lozeau you are doing a fine job, there are more for you than there are against you, so hang in there.

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Mike M. — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:20:43 -0000

No, I believe that is referring to the forums. Teeboom posts under Theycannothandlethetruth, and blasts the teachers daily, and has been since pretty much last summer. Go to the homepage of the paper, and see forums on top. The city of Nashua's Contract Crisis has over 60 pages of "conversation" that is preserved. Check it out, and you will see .

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Tax Payer — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:48:05 -0000

i find it interesting to click on your name and see you making posts with one name, and then supporting them with another. It appears you are a teacher, and a parent who supports the teacher, and a random person who wants nashua to "get ready"

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Parent of 2 — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:22:27 -0000

Broad St. Sorry to have disappointed you, however there have been a few people that have come out of the woodwork virtually from no where, and directed comments to me that have had no relevance to my posts. One poster ridiculed me for posting positivity (not sure that's even a word) and this "Andrea" being another, name calling on a different board..just defending myself and my beliefs. Yeah....the phrase "bite me" was probably not the best choice, and yeah It was in the heat of the moment. I still stand by the teachers and have an incredible amount of respect for them, as they have my kids full time and they are a great influence over their learning and attitude towards school. I will continue to support them, live and in person and on the boards.

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Broad St — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:10:16 -0000

how the mighty have fallen.

Earlier posts made by "parent of 2" seemed to be in line with what I was thinking.

However, I see that you have gotten sucked into the slime with the rest of them.

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b4school — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:06:10 -0000

The "failure of the City"?

What about the NTU or BOE? Did they submit a contract without 1st year raises?

Teachers do deserve fair wages and a good healthcare package; One that the City can afford.

There is an entire City of concerns, education is just one of them. To turn over the entire pie to one
group would be *distressful*.

Teachers claiming harrassment and name-calling are probably referring to what is written in this new comment area of the telegraph. Does this really count? Not much of anything written in these pages even hits the point of the corresponding article.

These pages should not be the indicator of how much these teachers are appreciated.

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nashuamom — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:28:33 -0000

There are a lot of reasons why the failure of this city to approve a contract for the teachers is distressful, but from what I have been hearing and reading on these pages, the most distressful thing is that our respect and gratitude towards our teachers is being eroded. As parents of school-aged children in Nashua, we have been very lucky. We have good schools, and teachers who care about our kids and enjoy educating them. I honestly believe that very few of us would argue that point. The on-going debate over this contract has angered many of us; but unfortunately, that anger is now being turned towards the very people whose hands we place our children into daily. The teachers are no different than any of us. We worry about our finances, job security, health insurance - we would all fight for the best deal we can get for our families. I agree that this contract is probably the best one that is going to be offered. The economy is on shaky grounds right now and everyone is feeling the pinch - many of us have gone without raises, we pay more for health care and we worry that our jobs will be eliminated. We all have our opinions about how this should end - but please - let's stop the name-calling and harassment of the teachers. We all want our children to have the best education possible - they need it and deserve it. We need and deserve the best teachers this city can hire - and I think we have them. Let's give them our respect and support.

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woodysix8 — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:05:51 -0000

What is your point??? Teaching along with law enforcent, military, social work, fire fighting etc etc is a noble profession. I applaud those that sacrifice to provide these services as I was applauded for my sacrifice while serving in the military and will hopefully be applauded for my third career in 20 or so years. I fully intend to serve my community and/or country once again. Meanwhile, I'm serving as a citizen that pays 30 percent of my income in taxes, income or otherwise. I also volunteer when free time allows. What have you done for your community lately???? (the last question was a broad one.... and not directed at anyone in particular)

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woodysix8 — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:57:55 -0000

Why???? Are you afraid to hear the truth???

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Nashua Parent — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:15:09 -0000

Your post is pointless . Did the Mayor tell you that or is that something you managed to come up with all by yourself?

I am not sure if you noticed but some of the alderman wanted it clarified that the contract would be nullified if the funding wasn’t there. Why don’t you look at the big picture before you waste your time with pointless post.

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Parent of 2 — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 15:11:44 -0000

Andrea...bite me...what are you doing? Seeking me out? This is the 2nd post from you to me. Apparently "trolling" is your new habit as well.

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Rockyroad — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 14:42:38 -0000

Nashua Parent

The school board felt that the contract sent to the board of alderman was fair (5-0). The board of alderman passed it (8-6) but the mayor who was new to the dance vetoed it . Like most office holders she is worried about the next election and is playing to the Teeboom and Deane crowd and could care less about what is fair.

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Andrea — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:58:54 -0000

And you are all about posting your own name.

Just because *so what* doesnt share your beliefs doesnt make him/her wrong.

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nashua — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:14:06 -0000

National coverage ? Right.