Nashua Telegraph - Latest Comments in Nashuatelegraph.com: Lozeau, union reps will attend mediation session

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anonymous — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:18:42 -0000

It is time to reorganize the way Nashua is run. Like it or not, no matter what side you represent, this city is run by nice people, who are simply unable to represent a city of this size, and bring complex negotiations to conclusion. This is not just the teachers contracts. There are far too many issues that just do not get resolved, or are resolved poorly.

Think about a professional city manager or other form of government that gives people a voice, but does not let the cycle of deadlock linger year after year.

Let the Alderman keep their chamber so they can go on Channel 16 and ham it up for the camera, but hire a professional that can comprehend the city bidget, recognize the regional issues and impact this city has and get the work done.

This joke has gone on for too long.

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anonymous — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:11:48 -0000

Is this from Mrs. T? Or D?

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Nashua Parent — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:04:21 -0000

What errors? You posting there were errors and not backing them up is what is really irresponsible.

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Nashua Parent — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:00:30 -0000

Wonderful, I will ask again then. Which numbers were incorrect then? Or is this a bunch of BS.

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NanaQ — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:14:37 -0000

Are their salaries paid out of tax money

How much do they make?

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NanaQ — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:09:11 -0000

The schools have been crumbling long before this Mayor took office.

Paying teachers, nurses and guidance more money won't fix that problem.

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NanaQ — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:59:18 -0000

The Board of Education should have a BETTER understanding of what the City will and can afford

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NanaQ — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 12:55:19 -0000

If you do not like the comments made by that person, don't read them.

this is a public forum.

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please.. let this end — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:46:39 -0000

If nobody responds to southnh maybe it will go away. It’s clear s/he enjoys reading her own garbage and is so proud she can spell at least one word correctly "entitled" so s/he uses it in EVERY post. Do you remember those people in class that always raised their hands just to hear themselves speak? People obviously stopped listening so now s/he writes..... At least tries to.

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$8735 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:26:22 -0000

Speaking of not decipherable your spelling is just as bad as some others that post here...or maybe it "cap lock" on? or just for the fun of it you are holding the shift key from time to time. And before you say I shouldn't hurl insults arn't you the one that did it first?

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$8735 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:06:32 -0000

You didn't mention if the previous abitration was binding or not. Either way I would agree it was a very underhanded thing to do....dishonest also. Binding arbitration seems fair. I have know Idea who pick the mediators or even who to pick. It would seem like alot of work to get someone aceptable to either side. But if someone could be found then it seems a way out of the polarizing woods we find ourselves in.

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$8735 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:55:45 -0000

lapislazel....how correct you are......but it would get you a 95% or so in a test at school.

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$8735 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:53:04 -0000

Neither are you....go talk to Billary as you cry over lost votes together

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lapislazel — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:51:41 -0000

Distributing a memo with even one incorrect number would not be considered acceptable in the business world.

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teacher — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:25:56 -0000

Gotcha. That particular mediation was before my time in Nashua, but as I understand it (and anyone who was around, please feel free to jump in!), negotiations failed, mediation was called in, an agreement was reached and presented to the board(s)--an agreement that was mediated by a neutral party--and the board pretty much said, "thank you for your time," and shot the agreement down.

I would like to see that this time around, it not happen like that. Whatever the mediator presents as the most equitable solution, I'd like to see as binding. I realize that this may go against a whole bunch of things, but it is my hope that a neutral party would put together something we can all be happy with (or at least not that unhappy about), and therefore could be accepted and voted in. I'd hate to see mediation be used as another stall tactic to get teachers to finish out the year.

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teacher — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 20:18:43 -0000

When Fred calculates total teacher compensation, he includes health care. It stands to reason that if health care is counted "for" us, making concessions in that regard should also count.

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overburdened taxpayer — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:36:41 -0000

My blind allegiance? How amusing. And, what pray tell, do you call 500 NTU members allowing their prez to censor a communication from Mayor Lozeau?

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Idea — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:03:46 -0000

Are you kidding Dishearten…you are probably the person bleeding the system dry you welfare prodigy.

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$8735 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:46:29 -0000

You talked about a previous instance of mediation. That didn't go to well for the teachers?? So my comment was directed towards that remark.

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$8735 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:43:57 -0000

WOW have you ever heard of retorical responses??? I was called that earlier and was just responding in kind.

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$8735 — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:36:17 -0000

neither is your...B

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Disheartened — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:14:16 -0000

Here's an even BETTER idea: how about those of us who have never been arrested not pay for the police? And don't tax me for the firefighters, I'm very careful and would never have a fire. I only travel on a few roads in Nashua, so I shouldn't have to pay for all of them. Forget paying for the elderly, my parents don't live in Nashua. What else can we cut out? Welfare? I don't need that. What a perfect and cheap social system we'd have if we only had to pay for what we use, right? THAT would be a win/win/win!

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mamamia — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:29:57 -0000

The correct quote is, "Oh, I see said the blind man." Your quote makes no sense (unless you're calling yourself ignorant, and then it makes perfect sense). What this teacher probably means is he/she is tired of this issue being negotiated, agreed upon, and then shot down. He/she just wants to make sure that whatever is agreed upon during negotiations is passed, regardless of where the chips fall. I think everyone in Nashua would like to see closure to this issue.

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TDF — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:24:19 -0000

Great idea! but I have an ammendment to it. Let's propose that all people who have gone to school and now have a job, show their gratitude for being educated by paying $100 extra for every year of school they have ever attended (12 years of public education = $1200 per year extra per person). That should help out the school budgets too. Who wouldn't be thankful for having aquired an education and want to give back so that other children could benefit too. That way the rest of the taxpayers (those that can't read, write, and do math) don't have to worry about their taxes going up for something they never used. I say it is a win/win/win for all parties!

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teacher — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:12:29 -0000

???
Isn't that what mediation is supposed to bring? A fair and equitable settlement for all? I don't see anywhere that I'm guaranteed to come out benefiting--for all I (or you) know, the mediator may come out against us. What I'm saying is that I would like it to be binding...and if I'm on the losing side, so be it.
Or was your comment to indicate that you think the teachers should "win" this go around??