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Teeboom keeps getting reelcted so at the very least some people already think he is part of the solution. When will you realize that?
Teeboom does not represent the majority of this city.
I don't like a lot of what the guy says either, but he offered a fresh idea. I'll take that over a guy that says "We gotta pass this now because it's been too long" anyday.
is possible that they will now have time to go back and look at it. Many of us will still be frustrated because we feel the city has cheated us out of our step. For the last two years they are constantly saying that we are working under the old contract, but the old contract clearly lists our steps. In Massachusetts, teachers automatically get
there steps. Lately, I have been hearing that other New Hampshire towns also give the step automatically. But once again I will agree with you I would rather just take Teeboom's amendment and move on before I become so frustrated and quit my job!! I can't believe anyone would listen to Teebom either, he is the problem we are still in this mess and the main reason why many teachers are insulted.
Instead of chanting and cheering to send out the Big Threats to the City you all should have taken the time to review the information presented. As far as I am able to determine by the many posts and news stories. The union has not even looked at the memo or considered a vote on the amended contract.
Once the veto was made, the union was suppose to take a vote to accept or reject.
So, review the information, vote to accept or reject.
Other than presenting his amendment at the BOA meeting, Mr Teeboom isnt involved until a new contract lands back in that chamber.
For the record, I understood completely what Teeboom was presenting and thought that Bolton was TOTALLY out of line
I agree with all you said. But you will NEVER get the union to even beging to talk about what you are saying. Their take on the line item veto is a case in point. Mr Sherman has said that a vote on this line-item was never taken. The reason being....it was not a negotiated contract , thus the union was under no obligation to vote on it. How can you discuss anything with someone that will pull that out of somewhere for you to believe?
Ann just below this post tells you why they didn't look at the memo. It arived to late to look at. COME ON union members. You have said over and over again all the education needed to get to the point you are at. And you will sit there with a straight face and tell me PHD canadates and Master Degree holders can't read a memo and at the very least be able to get a understanding one way or the other about the memo????
Also a secret ballot would not have changed the outcome in any discernable way. It’s not the way the meeting was conducted that is the issue nor is it that teachers don’t understand what was being offered. It simply is no longer a fair contract and one we will not accept.
The BOA is not negotiating. They are part of the aproval process. If you need something aproved by your boss do you bring him something to aprove that you know he won't? Then cry that he shouldn't negotiate he can only aprove?
By asserting themselves in the negotiations, the BOA have pulled a one time trick that will make negotiations 10x more contentious in the future.
Why would the union have negotiated at all with the BOE if there were aldermen, waiting in the wings to extract extra unknown concessions from them.
I wish the BOA was required to actually read a book on formal negotiation before taking their position - they would understand how detrimental their position is
Paying teachers, nurses and guidance more money won't fix that problem.
It is too bad that Sherman did not pass out those memos from the Mayor. She presented those in good faith and this man accuses her of making some sort of *political* move. If anything, his failing to pass out the memo was more so.
All members of the NTU should have been given the opportunity to vote on whether to pass around the memo for review. I think that Mr. Sherman is leading these folks down a one way street.
Sherman continues to put threats of job action out there. What recourse does the City have?
I would not be happy to hear that the City folded just to avoid a teachers strike.
It is one thing to threaten, but, when it comes down to it, how many of the union members actually support that action?
By all accounts of all invloved this is a make or break issue for the future of the city(such hyperbole). So why wasn't the memo passed out and analyzed. Then you move on to the business at hand. People take the time to understand the issues that they confront. Looks to me the union had other things on mind. Maybe getting home to go to bed?
And your professed blind allegiance to elected officails is frightening. What ever happend to free thinking, and for that matter readin comprehension?
Give up this overburdened tax payer nonsense already and pay your fair share.
Teachers worked in good faith without a contract. Nashua, a city with a great reputation, should honor the service of their fine educators and reward them with fair compensation. What is taking place now is degrading. Our new Mayor and those supporting her veto are disrespecting both teachers and students. Voters will suffer now and much more in the future for this short sighted action.
To Mayor Lozeau and our alderman. Keep up the great job. You're trying to be fair to everyone as demonstrated by the latest contract offer. Let's see now with a mediator who's being reasonable and who's not.
Sure, the percentages look good, and of course we would all like to see our salaries go up...but we also want credit for the job we've already done. It would be nice to get the money increase, don't get me wrong, but if doing so means giving back a substantial amount of money, it's something I have to think twice about. Maybe five times about, or even more than that.
For the public (and the mayor) to expect me to look at and vote on a paper I haven't been given time to look at, which I haven't been given the opportunity to run the figures (losses) for myself on, is shortsighted. It would be irresponsible for people to not do their own background figures, as I have, before voting and then making an informed decision, not one based on emotion and exhaustion at the time this situation is taking from the rest of our lives.
I know now that what is happening in Nashua is an anomaly thanks to the politicians.
How much do they make?
Forgive the cynicism, but I'm told that in a previous but similar situation, mediation was called for and completed, but then the aldermen disregarded the mediator's recommendations anyway.
If we're going to do this, I'd like to see it binding to all parties, come what may.
Isn't that what mediation is supposed to bring? A fair and equitable settlement for all? I don't see anywhere that I'm guaranteed to come out benefiting--for all I (or you) know, the mediator may come out against us. What I'm saying is that I would like it to be binding...and if I'm on the losing side, so be it.
Or was your comment to indicate that you think the teachers should "win" this go around??
I would like to see that this time around, it not happen like that. Whatever the mediator presents as the most equitable solution, I'd like to see as binding. I realize that this may go against a whole bunch of things, but it is my hope that a neutral party would put together something we can all be happy with (or at least not that unhappy about), and therefore could be accepted and voted in. I'd hate to see mediation be used as another stall tactic to get teachers to finish out the year.
Think about a professional city manager or other form of government that gives people a voice, but does not let the cycle of deadlock linger year after year.
Let the Alderman keep their chamber so they can go on Channel 16 and ham it up for the camera, but hire a professional that can comprehend the city bidget, recognize the regional issues and impact this city has and get the work done.
This joke has gone on for too long.
this is a public forum.