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that if more people new about the pain that they feel
could be made more berrible
As an aside, doesn't he coincidentially look like Jimmy Buffet?
I do not know where you get your idea that we think we're without sin over here in Hollis. That was a completely inappropriate comment. You're making a judgmental opinion of an entire town based on what? Nothing. There is nothing here to warrant such a response. If, for some reason, you have a bias against Hollis please, show some decency, and keep it to yourself.
Thank You.
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Peo[ple of NH, stand up and support legeslation to decriminalize pot, and people of the nation stand up to legalizae pot once and for all.
Lets get the REAL criminals that cause REAL crimes and leave these poor persecuted happy friendly undangerous people alone.
We shouldn't be spending tax dollars enforcing this stuff.
Do you even know where that phrase comes from? I'm sure that General John Stark was not referring to getting stoned on illegal drugs when he coined this phrase while fighting for independence, as did the French during their revolution. Dying for your country has nothing to do with being breaking the law. Maybe people should to move to The Netherlands you really need to get stoned legally.
Understand your history; our forefathers broke many laws in their day. The rising up against antiquated and unfair laws and rulings are part of our backbone. Again, I repeat the more current laws that had been on the books and are now legal; sodomy and abortion.
Does that make sense to you now?
Glad to heat that there is absolutely no crime in Hollis...It must be the Safest Place on Earth if police have time for activities like arresting illegal dog owners and small scale pot farmers. (Roll eyes)
I do not intend to take a stand on whether or not marijuana should be legalized or not, I do not intend to waste my effort to address my position with the laws of this nation on such a petty matter…when people are continually content in handing over OUR civil liberties for the illusion of safety. There are, ultimately, greater matters at debate than the growing of marijuana.
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Alcohol is a far worse drug, and more abused than any out there!!!! Added to the fact that alcohol plays a major role in alot of "disturbing the peace" and "domestic violence" related issues. Not to mention all the drunk drivers that kill people!!!
Never heard of a "stoner" running a Red Sox fan down.
I guess I should get my head checked too because 16 plants don't seem like a lot to me. How do we know he wasn't growing them for someone with a serious medical condition? I know, stupid question, you don't care about sick people and besides "it's illegal.".
I'm no expert but don't they have to be female plants to produce buds? Those plants don't seem fully developed enough to determine if they are male or female yet. If they're going to charge him for male plants then the whole thing is a farce and they're just out to ruin the guy.
Also, the guy on a tree street in Nashua doing the same thing probably wouldn't have had his place of business mentioned in the article either. What's up with that?.
He must not be a gun owner or they would have lined those up too and taken a picture of his guns with the plants.....for effect.
Hope he hasn't bought any vehicles or farm equipment recently or HPD will confiscate those too.
God forbid if he lives near a school or he's really screwed.
Yep, another "example" WILL BE made. Another life ruined even though nothing would ever have come of this. He's probably been doing that his whole life with no problems.
Yup, some day we'll all be safe!!! Even from pot smokers who won't licence their dog on time.
Scary scary stuff.
I'm still going to support m local farms but I'll keep in mind that there are atleast 5 other farms within 5 miles of Lull- Brookdales, Lavoies, Sullivan's, Kimballs, and Holden- all of which have delicious locally grown produce that don't give you the munchies
Rep. Barney Frank introduced a House bill Wednesday that would end federal penalties for Americans carrying fewer than 100 grams, or about a quarter-pound, of marijuana.
His contributions to the town of Hollis gain more attention from me than the idea of some misguided farming.
I support Dave Orde.
I can't imagine what would make anyone say that this is a small amount that is o.k.
Great example for the next generation.
one plant... ok a mistake... but having pounds stolen from you, and over 15 plants on your porch and more in your home (are you forgetting there are kids in his home!). Shame on all of you for saying that this is alright.
it is sad that this happened, but if he hadn't broken the law, he wouldn't be in this position. I won't support Lull
as it is not a message that I feel is positive for the community.
Thank you Hollis Police for taking this seriously.
For now, you can suck my view.
Also, to everyone who thinks the cops have nothing better to do than their... job... do you know how stupid he is to not just register his dog? OK, so you get your car registered at town Clerk and the ask if you want to register your dog at the same time. Dave said no he'd do it later. So later in the year you get the mail that says your dog registration is due. HE ignored it. Then you get a letter saying your late. then another, then another... AND after June !st, the clerk hands over all the papers to the PD who now go to your house to give you summons. ITs their job.
And what facts do you have backing up your claim about the registration?
You're incorrect with a few of your "facts" about what happened in that case.
Mr. OCC- The newspapers state that David Orde has over 250 acres worth of land in a very wealthy community, two successfull businesses in his farm stands and a household property in Hollis. Do you really t hink that he "likely was" "distributing for sale"?
That comment, sir, is more ridiculous.
David Orde has worked diligently to establish his reputation as an entrepeuer in the Hollis community and has done so with the utmost integrity. Where is your rampage about toilet paper on neighborbors trees during halloween? A good TP session on halloween has more effect on the community t hen someone growing a plant on his porch. Take your time in response.
perhaps it is time to fire a few
imagine, our economy is in the tank, gas prices are soaring and the hollis police are hand delivering unpaid dog license bills. perhaps using the post office would have been a more cost effective way to let david know his dog's license had expired.
the police obviously had a different intent
who ever the small minded person was that thought calling in one of the nicest guy's in hollis for growing pot at his home
must be an idiot
let's hope this doesn't ruin david ordes life because if he goes out of business it will certainly change the beautiful town of hollis forever
shouldn't pot be legalized?
unfortunately the law making pot illegal is a bad law.
it is time that this law is repealed.
and you are right someone would love to develop his land.
i do not smoke pot but one thing is for sure u are an idiot
Now, why are you all assuming it was a FRONT deck?
THINK, people.
Now that you mention it…I was wondering why he looked familiar…he does look sort of like Jimmy Buffett (it's two T's on the end by the way).
I hope they don't seize the farm. One of my good friends works there and I'd hate to see her lose her job. :(
It's a wonder he didn't get caught sooner. I know right where he lives. Just around the corner from his house is the home of a state trooper…
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I recently started shopping at Brookdales and it is awesome! They have the same veggies + their own ORGANIC veggies and they also have really interesting gifty/folk type items at their stand, not to mention an AWESOME ICE cream stand! If you can get it t LULL, youu can get it at Brookdales for less. And I know for a fact they dont grow ilegal plants to supliment their business (whether you believe that weed should be illegal or not)
Low-grade marijuana sells for about $340 a pound, mid-grade for $750 a pound, and high-grade for $2,500 to $6,000 per pound. A fully mature plant can a produce a quarter-pound to three-quarters of a pound of pot, according to various estimates.
Lets do some math based on the mid-range numbers. (1/2lb per plant at $750/lb)
16 plants
• each yielding approx. 1/2lb of pot per year
• 16 plants = 8lbs per year
• 1lb = $750
• 8lbs = $3,700
I would think these numbers are low, way low.
Is is possible that his personal use is 8 pounds per year? I doubt it. Being a farmer... do you think he is growing low-grade pot and yeilding only small amounts of pot per plant? I doubt it.
This is serious cultivation as stated in the article.
Outstanding citizen or not, this is ILLEGAL!
Need I say it again???
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!
What fabulous casual powers of observation.
I'm just curious, though, about procedural policies;
I thought issuing a summons means leaving it on/in the front door or even side door of a home. I didn't realize a stroll around the property was included.
Did anyone hear the snippet on B106 this morning? I was just waking up and heard the tail end of a political group of people having gotten together and spent a good $8,000 on booze for the gathering alone. Unbelievable. And all these people drove home?
I'm curious as to the number of people who attended....in my sleepy state I thought I heard a couple hundred. That's a pretty scary number when you put it against the amount of the bill.
Utterly amazing!
That's why I'm responding to alot of the ill and misinformed people that are posting.
I'm curious, though, as to why you level an attack on me, yet you say nothing about the numerous people that claim to know 'all kinds of dealing and growing info' on David.
Sounds rather selective to me, yet you and the other people set for attack demand and insist upon "the letter of the law". Hope you never sit on a jury.
This is how huge rumors get started and businesses get ruined. I think it totally ridiculous and uncalled for to bring the rest of his family in to this.
Until it is proved that the rest of his family had something to do with this they shouldn't even be mentioned.
By the way, with him growing his own marijuana, he is helping in the fight against terrorism and should be applauded! Home grown marijuana is obviously not imported, and because of that there is no chance of any money going to unsavory characters to buy such things as weapons to be used against our own troops.
of a pot plant and a sign, "Pick Your Own".
Oh, and the ones who feel the police should do nothing, I am sure you would like all the police to just go away and then there would be no police protection. Oh ya, thats right, you want them for your protection, but to enforce the laws if it concerns you. Just imagine what would happen if the police where not there any more. You would all scream if someone broke into your house, or committed a crime against you and the police where not there.
The majority of posters here feel there should be no police and that everybody should be able to grow pot. So get off your high horses, and go to Concord and change the laws. Oh ya, thats right, you dont have the time, and most people will just sit back and complain but wont do anything.
For Mark, if you are so totally disgusted with this country, leave it. I am sure you will be more happy in Iraq, China, Germany, or some other country.
1st paragraph-the politicians mind are already made up what laws will change and which won't.Doesn't matter what the people want.They've been smoking pot in holland for decades and holland has one if not THE lowest crime rate in europe.They sell pot in cafe parlors all over the place.And it's all LEGAL.
Paragraph 2:Now you're just acting like a fool.No one expects the police to just disapear,at least not seriously.And ig they did,in the context of your paragraph,people would arm themselfs and take care of business themselfs.
3rd paragraph-Same as 1&2 just worded differant.
paragraph 4:Germany is a great country.I was born there and have family that live there.That country has they collective SH.. together.Plus it's right next door to Holland.
Just for your information the Hollis cops have nothing better to do than go house to house for dog summons. It has happened to people I know more than 3 times in one week.
I think anyone who lives in Hollis should know that the cops are sneaky, bored, and will do anything to get a little action out of their day. My question is why were they in the back of David's house if clearly they knew he was at Lull working just like he does EVERY SINGLE DAY of the year? David Orde is not a criminal what he does in the privacy of his own home is his personal business just like everyone else. And there is no way he was going to deal. I believe all the plants were for personal use only which is why this town needs to stop looking at him like a criminal, he is not harming anyone, not even himself. What most of you people don't know is that probably around 60% of the town of Hollis residents smoke pot, so get over it.
All I really need to say is that David Orde is truely one of the nicest guys I have ever met. Any Lull Farm customers should know this too. Many people have built strong bonds with David, and just because he has been arrested shouldn't change their views on him, and if it has then this is a sad, sad community we live in.
Just for your information the Hollis cops have nothing better to do than go house to house for dog summons. It has happened to people I know more than 3 times in one week.
I think anyone who lives in Hollis should know that the cops are sneaky, bored, and will do anything to get a little action out of their day. My question is why were they in the back of David's house if clearly they knew he was at Lull working just like he does EVERY SINGLE DAY of the year? David Orde is not a criminal what he does in the privacy of his own home is his personal business just like everyone else. And there is no way he was going to deal. I believe all the plants were for personal use only which is why this town needs to stop looking at him like a criminal, he is not harming anyone, not even himself. What most of you people don't know is that probably around 60% of the town of Hollis residents smoke pot, so get over it.
All I really need to say is that David Orde is truely one of the nicest guys I have ever met. Any Lull Farm customers should know this too. Many people have built strong bonds with David, and just because he has been arrested shouldn't change their views on him, and if it has then this is a sad, sad community we live in.
.....Yeah, that's what I thought.
I didnt get the preferred treatment (for the felony)
that he did....
I got $4k cash bail
He was released on $2k
My $$ amount was a lot less than his (16 pot plants)
Mine was under $3k
But of course I didnt have a snazzy lawyer to defend me either and prob get the bail reduced.
There is no question he will get preferred treatment
Do you disagree?
It has nothing to do with a lawyer at that point.
It can be argued the next day if there is an arraignment.
But I WILL blame him, because he got strings pulled.
Lets be realistic here.
He will get a slap on the wrist and I will have the book throw at me....bottom-line
Our fields have no weeds.
Why should I be thrown in jail and left there?
Are you insane?
He was GROWING POT PLANTS TO DISTRIBUTE
This is how the stuff gets tossed outta court. There are certain procedures they MUST follow.
Yep.
Investigative reporting is just that; a well-rounded look into the issue at hand, not just a
blind "first glance". You need to review what constitutes "plain sight". If I had anyone
approaching my house, I would expect them to act in a reasonable manner; in other
words, they'd park in the street outside my house, walk up the driveway, approach the
front door, etc. I do not expect a reasonable person, (and in this regard, the duty is
higher than reasonable), to ignore the driveway, bolt up my tiered lawn, walk around on
my garden path to either side yard or to the back of the house.
I'd like to hear one person around here who so arrogantly points their finger at Mr.Orde and accuses him of selling that pot to ANYONE to state any evidance they have.I'm not talking accusations but evidance.Anyone...?Anyone at all...?I didn't think so.From reading some of your posts I could come under the assumtion that perhaps one or more of you had a personal vandetta against Mr.Orde and "planted"this eveidance...!Planted,LOL.I kill myself sometimes.
... "what? marijjuana? he was growing WHAT in my town?"
there's an old saying..
"if you have zero tolerance for drugs, go right to your record collection, and just start tossing all that music in the trash... because you know what? all those musicians that you listened to in the 60's and 70s... real high on drugs."
... the thing's well traveled but you get the idea...
support dave!
Nashua District Court on Aug. 13 at 8:15 a.m.
Any Questions??
Slap him on the wrist and make him pay his Dog License.
She's the only one not smoking over at Lull's?
The blooming dog, Walter prob is too....
If they're males they are non-functional as drugs.
they should leave him ALONE?<<<
ITS A FELONY
"Hey TreeLady...
Why should I be thrown in jail and left there?
Are you insane?
He was GROWING POT PLANTS TO DISTRIBUTE"
This is your own speculation and has no business in this forum. How are you so sure he planned to DISTRIBUTE when this article never even uses that word. " Manufacture" and "distribute" are two entirely different words. I "manufactured" some pancakes this morning but never got the chance to "distribute" them to anyone but myself. Do you get it Jimmy? Maybe I should simplify further. It will all be lower case though so you're going to have to relax a bit.
And why are you so pissed off?
Oh that is right… you do not manufacture a plant, it grows from a seed, and is a natural part of nature. What is next, we outlaw butter since more people die from obesity related diseases than from marijuana?
I will make a deal with you… if what I do doesn’t effect you; then don’t tell me what I can and can not consume and I won’t tell you what you can and can not consume.
Marijuana is illegal.
Right?
Support your local stoner :)
Caps-lock drives me nuts…why must people insist in typing in all caps? I say we stone you for using all capital letters… ;)
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Did they have a warant for the Dog?
Fleas are infecting the dogs that American
Fleas dont want to infect!
Are you clowns seriously condemning our entire legal system over a guy being charged with having pot plants? Do you have any facts to back your accusation that poor people in the Nashua area get the book thrown at them over having pot plants?
Your conspiracy theory-esque attitude is what is hard to believe.
Last I knew, sodomy was still on the books. Are we all going to close our shades so we're not in an observable, or God-forbid, earshot of an official before we get hauled down to the station for such an offensive crime?
My post was sarcasm. Get a clue bro. TH
I am sorry, I have to post one more time. To think someone read my post and then quoted the bible. You really need to get a clue. You didn't get the sarcasm or the pun ??
CC,
Keep up the fight, this man is what is wrong with society. (Sarcasm) I don't want DMJEAN to quote the bbible again. TH
Study the history if the laws and see that it was just used to repress certain minorities and drive Mexican immigrants from the country. It's a shame that we don't have much hope of seeing it legal in our lifetimes.
I don't smoke at all but think its illegality is absurd. Alcohol is a much more dangerous drug if we're going to get into reality.
My heart goes out to those people who have had loved ones lost by scumbags who abused weed and ended up taking a life because of it. But those same dirt bags would drink & drive as well. Not because of the substance, but because of their inability to think in terms of consequences.
Of course the areas that targeted will produce more crime....how can the areas that are not looked at be noticed?
• Tobacco kills about 400,000
• Alcohol kills about 80,000
• Workplace accidents kill 60,000
• Automobiles kill 40,000
• Cocaine kills about 2,500
• Heroin kills about 2,000
• Aspirin kills about 2,000
• Marijuana kills 0
There has never been a recorded death due to marijuana at any time in US history.
All illegal drugs combined kill under 20,000 per year, or a small percent of the number killed by alcohol and tobacco.
Tobacco kills more people each year than all of the people killed by all of the illegal drugs in the last one hundred years
Come on let’s get real. Make pot legal!
there were plants and illegal paraphinila in his house tooooo
i hope the dog wasn't exposed to the illegal paraphinila
(remember, we're talking a needle point sized drop) *yowsa* Amazing powers of casual observation.
That case stunk to high heaven just like this one does.
The guy is a horticulturalist. Not to mention, a flipping FARMER. He farms 250 acres of beautiful NH land. He feeds people and employs many others. He keeps the land beautiful and agricultural.
I assure you, his 16 plants were not a career move. So don' t even compare him to the "tree street" grower that sells weed for a living.
And to the class A felony guy. Cry me a river pal. What have you ever done? When you clear up your court cases, I bet David Orde would be a good enough person to give you a job.
We love to tear down those with more success than ourselves.
NOT A FRONT PORCH!
This is why I'm upset!
which i didnt have....so I had ro sit in jail til they lowered it/.
and it wasn't being a dealer of drugs.
Involved under $3k of money
I do not know anyone either
I don't see you expecting everyone to pay the same dollar amount in taxes, create the same amount of jobs for others, and contribute voluntarily to the community. Until you do that maybe you should be careful about crying about how unbelievable a situation like this is.
If you expect everyone to be treated the same then they should be held accountable to be the same is every aspect.
Even if this guy is selling a little to his friends, he's not going to be down at the school selling to our babies.
Don't get me wrong, he should be punished but I think that the courts should take into account a person's life when they pass judgement. If you've done nothing good and spend your life taking advantage of the system maybe you don't deserve to be let off easy. If you worked hard for 40 years and your taxes have paid for others to get help when they needed it, maybe your punishment isn't quite so tough. That's the whole reason there are recommended sentencing ranges.
If it turns out he was trying to sell drugs to your kids or mine... I'll stand with you and change my tune really quickly.
Perhaps YOU personally are the "community" that his drug growing/dealing helped???? I personally am in favor of legalizing marijuana, and maybe this guy is not bad, but your little rant makes no sense at all.
That is why the accused don’t have to prove their innocence, but rather the prosecutor needs to prove his guilt.
sara sounds as though she is trying to better herself
it sounds as though u are one of those that expects david ordes taxes will help to pay for your food etc.
i am sure the 16 plants he was growing did not help pay for his business
by the way u are an IDIOT
I wish I could say that
Do you see how stupid that sounds when you use that slogan to justify every wrong action!!!!!!!! it's a privilage not a right and if you can't understand that, move to canada or some other place far far far away.
FREEDOM IS A god GIVEN RIGHT !!!
Get a clue
I was involved in a business deal gone bad and
am dealing with a class A felony
This guy was growing enough plants to deal.
And his bail is LOWER than mine?
This state SUCKS
1. register the dogs
2. take the plants inside
3. Lull Farm- get corn, cookies, apples, plants,
cukes(Divas) and veggies